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Your title must include year/make/model and a short description of the problem.Please do not delete your threads.Our.For information on content removal, user warnings, and bans, please see the page.The wonderful and epic tale of.Forget the trunk monkey, check out.Sticky Schedule(weekly)Car Buying AssistanceTuesTune-Up: Repair AssistancePrevious AMAs.Banner Image/Car InfoCar: Nissan Motorsports Project Clubsport 23Photographer. Hello everyone, I'd like to tell you my story, some of you will think the biggest idiot and moron for doing what I did.I have driven manual cars 2-3 times in my whole life. So my dad came to me and said son, Im going to buy you a car. I already had my dream car in mind, and the thing is. I wanted to drive it the way its meant to be driven.So that car is 370z. I got it manual. Now first time I rode it.
I stalled it atleast. 12 times probably maybe more!Even though I clearly watched alot of youtube videos, got lessons from my dad. Its just I have no idea how much gas I need to give it. The car is always jumping whenever I shift from N to 1, and I don't know when to shift to 2. I usually shift when its abit loud, like when it hits 3000-4000 rpm.So thats what I've been doing for the last 3 hours after getting my car.
Just taking it for a stroll. Sometimes I shift soo slow because I don't want the car to stall or jump. And then sometimes Im like fuck it. Pro people shift quicker, Im sure if i let go of the clutch there quickly nothin will happ. Car stalled.its frustrating! When I switch from 1-2-3 its easy, very easy actually. I remembering stalling most of the times at the speedbump.
Like seriously I know that you need to give it some gas when the car is moving. But what about if you are in a steep ground, and you're trying to move up but the car just won't move.also how much gas do I need to give it? Do I need to give it constantly like hold the pedal for 2 seconds or something or do I need to like rev it. Like just tap it few times.Also when I do all that? After feeling the locking area? Or before that? (by locking I mean when you lift up the clutch to the point where your car is moving)If you have any good advices or tips, please let me know.
Thank youEDIT:Thanks a lot for the tips and advices you guys! I'd like to say that my 2nd day of driving this car. I have progressed 200%!!! I can literally drive it now!! I have switched to 4th gear, I can switch gears on the roundabouts and U-turns too, even when I break, I can easily clutch it back 2nd gear and move on!However my only issue and that has caused me to stall the car atleast 4 times today is. And its not just starting the car.
Its just whenever I hit a speedbump, I usually slow down. And shift to 1. I shift to 2 for some speed bumps, but the tall ones, I usually slow it down.
And shift to one. And those are a BITCH! Like I just need to get used to the biting point, since Im used to seein my car moves forward.Anyways just the speedbumps are issue. I've also realized alot of things. One whenever I start the car, I give it too much gas and it makes my car jump, which is why im kinda confused because Im like. Damn this car is just too fast for me to park. Another thing is which is the most important thing that nobody ever taught me nor did I read about it online.
Ofcourse thanks to my dad, he told me about it. At first when I was driving the car, I pretty much was resting my foot on the clutch, and kick the clutch down whenever Im shifting. My dad told me that your legs doesn't need to move. Just floor it with your foot, and let it log by releasing the foot slow, DONT PULL your legs! And thats pretty much it. I still need to get used to how much gas I've been giving it, the pedal is just too light, I can pretty much hit 3000 rpm just by sneezing at it.Another issue is, because I love 2 gear.
Mostly because its easy to clutch in and clutch out smoothly without your car stalling, so I run into these situations where I slow down to like 10km/h and Like I said I don't want to down shift to 1 cause its a bitch! So afterwards I feel like the car is moving strangely? Does that mean Im suppose to give it alot of gas?So then again, I just need to get over the speed bump issue, recognize my pedal and how light it is. Make sure I pretty much seasaw the gas and the clutch and above all get used to the footwork!Thanks again for reading this post and giving me your feedback!:). Imagine the clutch and the gas are on a seesaw.
As one goes up, the other goes down.How much gas vs. How much clutch is a variable that changes between every shift, every incline, every road condition, every speed. It is always different. It is a feeling, not a an exact point on the tachometer.Go to an empty parking lot. Take off in first.
When you feel like you should shift into second, STOP. Take off in first. When you feel like you should shift into second, STOP.
Take off in first. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. And then do it again. Do this for 3 hours if you have to.
You are building muscle memory finding the friction point, and muscle memory to depress the clutch when you brake.Once you have starting from a dead stop, the other shifts are pretty easy. Knowing when to shift will come the more you drive YOUR car, as it can be very different from car to car.Hope this helps, and good luck. It's just practice practice practice, and then it's second nature and you'll be all 'God dammit, another idiot posting 'how do I drive stick?'
Go to an empty, flat parking lot. Leave it in first.
Let off the brake. Slowly let off the clutch until the car starts to move.
Push clutch back in. Repeat 10-20 times until you get used to at what distance the car starts to move and what it feels like.Next, repeat, but this time, give it a little gas right as you get to that point where the car starts to move. Try to keep rpms around 1400 and let the clutch out all the way. Let it out slowly. Repeat 10-20 times until you can let it out all the way without stalling or bucking, but not letting it slip too much.Next, do it again, but keeping the car at 1200 rpm. Again, looking for smooth acceleration without slipping the clutch too much.Repeat again, this time at 1000rpm.After you master taking off in first, shifting through the gears should be easy. This should be done more by MPH than RPM.
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It varies from car to car, but after about 10mph, shift to 2nd. After 20, 3rd etc. This is for general cruising. For more performance, you would hold each gear longer, changing before redline, of course.
At speed, you should be able to just let out quickly on the clutch after shifting without stalling. However, slower will be smoother.Once you have mastered that, you can start working on hill starts and downshifting, but you should be able to use the car in most locations.As other people have said, practice!. I remember learning how to drive stick. The Z doesn't make it easier, the clutch has a thin friction point and a high take up. It will take lots of practice, and you'll figure it out as time goes on, but here's an exercise that might help you to understand how much gas it takes to get going:Keep the RPM steady at 800-1000 at all times when you're leaving from a stop, and slowly move the clutch out while maintaining that same rpm.
Once you feel the car start to move forward you can start letting off the clutch a little faster and adding more gas.Over time you'll get a feel for where the clutch catches and you'll be able to do it much smoother and faster. Don't forget to learn how to rev match on your downshifts, and eventually learn how to heel toe. It takes practice, and its a tough car to learn on- don't give up.Let us know how it goes and I'll try to edit back and give you more feedback. When launching let the car start rolling alittle bit before you let more clutch out. The point of a clutch is to allow you to get from 0 to minimum engine speed gradually (and to change gears obviously).
Notice how the car idles around 750-900rpms. This is the minimum rpms the engine can run at without stalling.Think about this:In 1st gear0rpm(stalled)=0mph800rpm(idle)= 5mphYou have to bridge that 5mph gap without dropping below 800rpm. The clutch allow you to do this.So if your sitting at 0mph and you dump the clutch, the engine is forced to drop to 0rpm because the transmission (or wheels) was not yet moving at 5mph. Once you bring the transmission up to the same speed as the engine you can fully let out the clutch (each gear is different).That is why when you are traveling at 30mph and you press the clutch and rev the engine as soon as you let the clutch back out the rpms will instantly fall to the correct rpms that match 30mph for that gear. If you wanted 4000rpm out of 2nd gear you have to travel at the correct speed that matches it. In each gear there is only one mph speed that corresponds to the rpms of the engine (remember the rpms can change).Here's an unrealistic example car (redline @6000rpm):1st gear1000rpm = 5mph2000rpm = 10mph3000rpm = 15mph4000rpm = 20mph5000rpm = 25mph6000rpm = 30mph2nd gear1000rpm = 15mph2000rpm = 20mph3000rpm = 25mph4000rpm = 30mph5000rpm = 35mph6000rpm = 40mph3rd gear1000rpm = 25mph2000rpm = 30mph3000rpm = 35mph4000rpm = 45mph5000rpm = 50mph6000rpm = 55mphIn real life each gear has an increasingly bigger speed range.
1st= 0-25mph 5th= 40-150mphIf you understand anything from this mess of words understand that it takes some time to accelerate from 0 to launch speed so don't rush. Let the car accelerate some before letting out more. My only contribution here since everyone has already mentioned great methods of practicing/learning is to tell you I did the same exact thing. I wanted to learn manual, so I went and leased a VW with manual transmission.
I had only practiced on a manual transmission 3 times. Drove the 15 miles home by stalling 3 times. After a month, the nerves relaxed and I did a lot better.One thing that I think may help that I did not read is to NOT THINK about it. You already know what you need to do with your clutch, gas, etc.
And when your mind is on that, you will tend to overthink. Just listen to some music or talk to your passenger and drive, you'll be surprised how well you can do. Best advice I can give is to understand both the throttle control and the clutch control.The throttle control, you want to spend some time feathering the throttle 5%, 10%, 30%, etc. And get an idea how that works. If you want to move slowly, about 10mph, only modulate the throttle around 10%. If you want to move at normal 30mph traffic speeds, only go to 30% throttle.
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Spend some time in a parking lot or at traffic lights trying to feather the throttle and play with it. This is a drive by wire car, so if you jam the throttle heavily it will probably lag that input, this helps new manual drivers from accidentally screwing up while learning, just don't jam the throttle in.For the clutch, I start letting up off it very lightly at first until I know I'm getting the bite point and then I start letting up a bit quicker, giving it 10% throttle at that point right before the bite point letting up slowly. If you feel it pushing back against your foot, that's the clutch telling you to keep letting up, otherwise you'll be purposefully slipping the clutch. Sometimes slipping the clutch is necessary, like doing reverse gear or getting the car to move 2mph over a speed bump. Just slip the clutch momentarily, giving it 5-10% throttle then clutch back in over the speed bumps. Just operate the clutch in a linear motion, not too slow and not too fast. Sometimes you'll have to let up very slowly when upshifting slowly, and sometimes you'll have to let up very quickly and affirmatively if you're doing a quick downshift.Move the shifter affirmatively and positively.
V pattern is faster than H pattern and you'll be less likely to mis a shift (except downshifting). You don't need to be fast and furious, but don't be pussy hands with it.If you're too tired to shift well, drink a protein shake and a coffee, do some stretches and yoga or running before driving to get your body and mentality ready for it.
Working a clutch foot can at first be weird if you're out of shape, I know for me at first I had trouble feeling much through my feet at first. Wear comfortable tennis shoes, they will help you feel the pedals more. Good info here.One thing I would like to add:Take off your shoes.Sounds stupid, but gives you better response and feel for the engagement of the clutch. if your stalling, you're not giving it enough throttle. if the car is all jumpy on you then you released the clutch to quickly. if you're burning rubber you dropped the clutch at redline xDI've taught 10+ people on my 01 maxima on the same clutch with this methodGreat choice in car OP! You're going to have a blast in that VQ powered beastie.
First off, if you don't end up getting the hang of it, you could always just give the car to me:) but seriously, it just takes a little time and experience. Go to a flat parking lot, put the car in first, and slowly let the clutch out until the car starts to slowly inch forward (without touching the throttle, this is a small sort of 'halfway point' between neutral and first gear.) Repeat this over and over until you get a good feel for the point at which the clutch releases.
Once you get a feel for where that point is, slowly give some gas once the clutch gets to that engaging point, and take pressure off the clutch pedal as you slowly apply pressure to the gas peddle for a smooth set off. The RPM you shift at for the rest of the gears really depends on the kind of road your on (flat, downhill, uphill, etc) and like I said before, you will get the hang of with experience. Good luck, I hope this can be of some help to you:). I'm going to say the same thing I said on another topic. You need to be gentle with your feet. Why does it feel easy to change gears from 1-2-3-4.?
Because to change gears the car is already running and you don't need to be that gentle on the clutch and gas. But when you need to start moving, specially if you're going to start moving on a steep place, you need to slowly let the clutch go and slowly give it gas. You can't just take your foot off the clutch pedal, you have to do it slow.Go to a flat place and try just letting the clutch without giving it gas.
If you do it gentle the car will even start moving without the need of giving it gas. Practice this some times. After you've done this sometimes you will start having more sensibility with your foot and it will get much easier to start rolling on first gear.
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